About Us

Formed in 2004 by ABI President Michael Richman, the “Indubitable Equivalents,” are the world’s only all-ABI member rock-and-roll band. IE performs at ABI conferences and other Insolvency events across the United States.

The “Indubies” are:
(In alphabetical order)

• Andy Caine (Alto Sax)
• Jack Esher (Bass/Acoustic Guitar/Vocals)
• Steven Golick (Organ, Wind Controller)
• John Good (Trombone/Bass/Percussion)
• Dillon Jackson (Pedal Steel/Autoharp)
• George Kelakos (Lead Guitar)
• Jordan Kroop (Organ/Piano/Lead Vocals/Harmonica)
• Steven Rhodes (Rhythm Guitar)
• Michael Richman (Piano/Vocals)
• Mitch Ryan (Lead Vocals)
• Tom Salerno (Drums/Vocals)

The ABI Membership is a fertile ground for accomplished musicians, and past performances have featured guest performers including: Hon. A. Thomas Small (U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Raleigh, NC), Hon. John H. Squires (U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Chicago, IL), Christian Carl Onsager (Onsager & Staelin, LLC Denver), Al Annillo (EPIQ Systems; Kansas City), Michelle Anderson (American Board of Certification, Washington, DC) and many, many more. Family runs deep: IE is occasionally augmented by family members of the band: Eleni Kelakos, Ann Arbor, MI, T.J. Salerno, (Phoenix, AZ), Joe Richman (Georgetown University, Washington, DC), Brian Caine, Manhattan Beach, CA, and Joel Esher, Boston, MA,

Come see a show and experience the phenomenon of IE!